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Palantir Technologies and the Age of Automated Genocide 1 hr 16 Min by Novara FM, June 5, 2025
The genocide in Gaza has been the most automated in history.
Systems like ‘Lavender’ and ‘Where’s Daddy?’ reportedly speed up the process of tracking and targeting Palestinians.
They conceal the genocide’s brutality behind the facade of technical neutrality.
So why are the companies working with the IDF also working with the NHS?
Eleanor Penny spoke to Matt Mahmoudi about the broken promises of big tech and war in the age of AI.
@mc_hess Aug 19,2025:
Sure, why not complicate the MOU goals by giving the contract to the company with a quiet partnership with Palantir. Great for Canadian data sovereignty. After giving that same company money only to build their Canadian government-funded data centre deal with U.S.-based CoreWeave.
Super creepy Palantir-sponsored genocidal AI war tech trade show
Palantir Stock Down 20%. May Fall 74% More As AI’s Payoff Stays Low by Peter Cohan Senior Contributor, Aug 20, 2025, Forbes
Summary
- Palantir’s stock recently fell 20% despite strong Q2 financial results and optimistic Q3 guidance, including significant revenue and contract growth.
- Its high valuation is heavily scrutinized, with a short seller claiming 77% overvaluation and the CEO having sold substantial holdings.
- Future commercial expansion faces headwinds from broader “AI bubble” concerns, enterprises’ low return on AI investments, and Palantir’s defense-rooted culture.
Palantir stock has recently shed 20% since peaking at $190 a share earlier this month, according to Google Finance.
Does this make Palantir a bargain? Despite a strong second quarter financial report featuring expectations-beating growth and a bullish outlook, there are many reasons to expect the stock to decline further:
- A short seller called Palantir 74% overvalued.
- Palantir’s CEO has sold significant holdings.
- The lack of payoff from AI has investors concerned about an AI bubble.
To overcome these challenges, Palantir must grow faster by persuading more companiesand gov’ts via secret partners like Cohere? to adopt its platform. That could be difficult because the company’s culture is rooted in the defense and intelligence sectors, noted Erika Barker. Enterprises may prefer to buy from more culturally-aligned rivals such as Microsoft and Databricks which offer simpler, more accessible platforms, Medium reported.
Palantir is bullish about the future. “We’re planning to grow our revenue … while decreasing our number of people,” Palantir CEO Alex Karp told CNBC. “This is a crazy, efficient revolution. The goal is to get 10x revenue and have 3,600 people. We have now 4,100.”
I have contacted Palantir to request comment and will update this post if I receive a response.
Palantir’s Second Quarter Performance And Prospects
Palantir stock peaked days after the company reported second quarter results – which exceeded investor expectations and featured an increase in the company’s forecast for the current quarter, according to CNBC.
Palantir’s revenue and profit were up sharply in the second quarter. Revenue jumped 48% to $1 billion – $60 million more than the LSEG consensus. Meanwhile, the company’s net income soared 144% to $327 million – yielding an impressive net margin of 32.6%, CNBC reported.
Palantir’s guidance for the third quarter was ahead of estimates. The Denver-based software analytics company estimated revenue in a range – the midpoint of which is $1.085 billion – $102 million more than the analysts consensus, according to CNBC.
Demand for Palantir’s services appears strong. The total value of the company’s contracts grew 140% to $2.27 billion and in July, the U.S. Army signed a $10 billion software and data contract with Palantir, wrote CNBC.
Artificial intelligence has helped propel this growth. “It has been a steep and upward climb — an ascent that is a reflection of the remarkable confluence of the arrival of language models, the chips necessary to power them, and our software infrastructure,” Karp wrote in a letter to shareholders.
Short Seller Report Concluding Palantir Stock Is Overvalued
Analyst opinion is divided on Palantir’s prospects. But short-seller Citron Research is extremely bearish – seeing Palantir’s shares as 74% overvalued.
Wedbush is a Palantir bull. “Palantir remains one of our top tech names to own in 2025 and this deal represents another opportunity for PLTR to capitalize on while continuing to generate unprecedented traction for its entire portfolio across the federal and commercial landscapes,” Wedbush analyst Dan Ives wrote in an August 4 note to investors featured by CNBC.
RBC considered the stock very pricey before the Q2 earnings release. “We cannot rationalize why Palantir is the most expensive name in our software coverage,” RBC Capital Markets analyst Rishi Jaluria wrote in a note to clients. “Absent a substantial beat-and-raise quarter elevating the near-term growth trajectory, valuation seems unsustainable.”
On August 18, Citron Research – which recently initiated a short position – declared Palantir’s stock worth $40.12 a share. In the report, short seller Andrew Left of Citron Research shared his belief that the stock –which sports a price-to-revenue multiple of about 114, according to GuruFocus – has become “detached from fundamentals,” reported Investopedia.
Citron’s report arrived at this conclusion by comparing Palantir to OpenAI. Based on Bloomberg consensus projections, if Palantir was trading at 17 – the same price-to-revenue multiple as the ChatGPT maker – Palantir stock would trade closer to $40, noted Investopedia. However, “even that price would leave Palantir among the most expensive software as a service names names in history,” noted Left.
Palantir Insider Stock Sales
Palantir’s insider stock sales could also be contributing to investor nervousness. Karp has sold over $2 billion worth of stock in 2024 and 2025, representing 21% of his total holdings, noted Yahoo!Finance.Karp is a vile triple douche fucker in my view. Hideous sleazy man
This contrasts with other tech CEOs such as Elon Musk, who bought Tesla stock during its rise. Karp’s selling continues under 10b5-1 plans – he is authorized to sell as many as 9.975 million additional shares, reported Yahoo!Finance.
Investor Nervousness About AI Bubble
Last September, generative AI was looking to me like a big dud. While people were using ChatGPT to help them draft emails and reports, there was no killer app – akin to what the iTunes store did for the iPod or the electronic spreadsheet did for personal computers, I wrote in the Boston Globe.
This week, MIT reinforced this point with hard numbers. “Despite $30B-$40B in enterprise investment into generative AI, this report uncovers a surprising result in that 95% of organizations are getting zero return,” according to a study – based on 150 interviews with professionals, a survey of 350 employees, and an analysis of 300 public AI deployments – from MIT’s NANDA Institute featured by SeekingAlpha.
The main problem appears to be integrating AI into the enterprise. “Just 5% of integrated AI pilots are extracting millions in value, while the vast majority remain stuck with no measurable profit and loss impact,” noted the MIT NANDA Institute report.
Do enterprises failure to earn a return on their investment in generative AI bode poorly for Palantir’s future? It is possible companies will stop investing so much in AI if they don’t get better at integrating AI into their operations.
But I think the key is for companies to find ways to use AI to create new growth curves – something Palantir has succeeded in doing, I wrote in a Forbes post in February.
Ironically, Palantir’s ability to grow into its high valuation depends on being able to sell more services to enterprises – which have yet to find AI’s killer app. What’s more, such companies may find rivals like Databricks and Snowflake to be a better fit – which could be profitable for Citron Research’s short position in Palantir.
@beansproutsmom.bsky.social:
Fuuuuuuuucccccccckkk
@tryangregory.bsky.social:
Carney government excited to announce partnership with Cohere to integrate AI throughout government services (i.e., fire humans). Cohere works with Palantir. Palantir provides AI to Israel to target Palestinians and with Trump’s ICE to track immigrants.Carney’s an extreme right Harper Con, a cruel racist Zionist pro kid-killing monster. Of course he’s excited to help finance Israel’s genocide of Palestinians, like how Harper’s firm, AWZ aids Irsael’s spy tech that targets and murders innocent Palestinian kids.
@JasonBassler1:
When 13 employees walk away from Palantir and say this, we should listen:
“Palantir is increasingly complicit, normalizing authoritarianism under the guise of a ‘revolution’ led by oligarchs. We must resist this trend.”
Broligarchs promise revolution but deliver chains.
@sharonrmecfs.bsky.social:
President of Dictator’s club Harper (Poilievre’s boss) is also buddies with Palantir’s Lonsdale.
Surveillance state.
Liberals and Cons protecting billionaires.
Can’t fix the wealth gap by subsidizing Musk, Besos, & Thiel…. Or fossil fuel companies.
Need to tax places of worship/properties.Indeed. But our politicians will never tax rape religions like Israel’s genocidal thieving Zionism because rape religions finance most of them into power and keeps them in power.
@wtfis2bdone:
“Stop pushing a fucking speculative bubble w zero use value on Canadians, you oligarchic cunts” Challenge – level impossible.
@DocDellaire:
AI alone is shockingly bad. AI agents making decisions between high/low-risk working in tandem with actual pathologists works remarkable well. The issue is government (yes looking at you Evan Solomon and Mark Carne) thinks AI can replace highly trained doctors – TL;DR it can’t
@journodale.bsky.social:
And Mark Carney put Evan fucking Solomon in charge of digital asbestos‘ mass delusions in Canada.
We are so boned.
@ntrnchck.bsky.social:
The generative AI bubble can’t burst soon enough. I say that as a scientist using appropriate Machine Learning models to specific problems. Just because something has “intelligence” in the title, it doesn’t mean that it does what [you] think it does.
@karengeier.com:
that’s what he wants so he can privatize those services. They’re laying the groundwork that they have all these positions open in the government they are filling with expensive contractors and it seems weird that they have amazing benefits and good holidays and decent salaries and can’t fill them
@metuiteme.bsky.social:
This fills me with SUCH RAGE. Me too, but then, every thing Carney (and his fraudulent Harper ReformaCon party) has done since he became leader (before the election) fills me with rage.Like, God knows there is plenty of pain in the ass repetitive donkey work in the PS that would be really nice to automate…but reading, writing, research, decision making, and generally THINKING do not belong in that category, dammit
@margomcm.bsky.social:
There is a reason why children & teenagers should not be using products like ChatGPT. Please come on this platform, Honourable Evan Solomon, Minister of Artificial Intelligence & Digital Innovation. How is the Canadian Government going to regulate A.I.?
@evansolomon.bsky.socialSleazy Solomon already said he won’t regulate it. Gotta let the billionaire tech bros abuse Canadians, notably to groom kids for rape and suicide, to please the orange diapered kid-raping Nazi’s billionaire pals, who are currently busy destroying lives, jobs and democracy in America. Coming soon for Canada, perhaps already here because Carney and Harper were so clever at conning Canadians into thinking Carney’s a liberal and fabulous.
CanadaSky #CanPoli
@apnews.com:
ChatGPT will tell 13-year-olds how to get drunk and high, instruct them on how to conceal eating disorders and even compose a suicide letter to their parents if asked, according to new research from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a watchdog group.
@lazylee.bsky.social:
You should probably trademark “Digital Asbestos” because it’s perfect
@journodale.bsky.social:
I can’t claim credit for it, but I will popularize the hell out of it.
@sea2sky99.bsky.social:
It’s disturbing knowing that an Opus Dei priest mentored Theil and that he is closely tied to JD Vance, Curtis Yarvin, and Project 2025.
What could possibly go wrong with his US data surveillance company, who help ICE and works for the GOP? This puts our sovereignty at risk.
@aroun.bsky.social:
Evan Solomon currently wondering if Air Canada can replace flight attendants with ChatGPT
@journodale.bsky.social:
This is the exact opposite of every professor I know, who are returning to things like pen-and-paper quizzes and exams in order to keep students from using digital asbestos.
(And was this sponsored content for Microsoft Copilot? Because wow, they laid it on thick).
@tryangregory.bsky.social:
Me too. There is not a single AI feature I want forced on us.AI is a fucking insult to one’s intelligence and is racist, misogynistic, bigoted, cruel and more often wrong than not. Unfortunately, most humans are incredibly stupid and lazy; AI makes them feel smart and fancy.
@devezer.bsky.social:
At this point, I am ready to become a dedicated patron to brands and businesses that have a principled stand against pushing AI as part of their offerings and vocally commit to smooth, lean/unbloated, pleasant basic customer experience.
@coloradowildflower.bsky.social:
Even with those long, cold Canadian winter nights? OMG, I’d rather go for a two hour walk in -40C than use anything with AI. I hate it. It’s nothing but a con, and ugly and ultra stupid like AI’s creators.
@tryangregory.bsky.social:
Not even then.
@fintwitter.bsky.social:
OPENAI CEO SAM ALTMAN CONCEDES GPT-5 WAS A MISFIRE, BETS ON GPT-6
Federal government taps Cohere to work on use of AI in public service, Toronto tech firm to look at how its products can improve federal public services by Anja Karadeglija, The Canadian Press, Aug 20, 2025, CBC News
Inhumane douche fucking genocidaires, all three of themThe federal government has signed an agreement with a Canadian artificial intelligence company to identify areas where AI can enhance destroypublic service operationsso as to later let USA companies privatize it, to “fix” it.
Cohere will look at how its products can improve disable federal public services, said Sofia Ouslis, a spokesperson for Artificial Stolen Super StupidIntelligence Minister Evan Solomon.
The agreement sets up “early-stage collaboration” between the federal government and the Toronto-based tech company, she said. Cohere develops large language models, a type of generative AI focused on language, and the company specializes in AI services for businesses.
“The focus is on identifying where Cohere’s Canadian-built AI tools can improve hobble public services, making them faster, smarter and more much slower, impossible and frustarting to use, much more stupid and in-secure. While there are no formal deadlines attached, the government sees this as a priority and is moving quickly to explore real-world applications,” Ouslis said.
Ouslis said the agreement does not include a “financial component.”
Hideously cruel Planatir is an American company; Solomon already gave $100M to USA AI tech bros. Planatir is quiet (secret?) partner of Cohere. Why is Canada’s corporate media not reporting this vital terrifying fact?
Cohere said in a blog post Tuesday it signed the agreement “to transform the public sector with our secure, sovereign insecure, high risk financially and in all ways, super stolen, super idiotic, super vicious if you are not white and male AI technology.”
“Accelerating AI adoption will deliver massive loss of productivity and destroyefficiency gains to enhance destroypublic services and modernizeshove back into the cave all operationswhile losing billions for investors and Canadians,” it said.
A government news release also said the agreement with Cohere involves looking at building Canada’s commercial capabilities to use and export AI, but did not provide details about what that effort will involve.
Using artificial intelligence to increase efficiency in destroythe public service was one of Prime Minister Mark Carney’s election promises. Carney also promised to cap the size of the public service, and most departments and agencies have since been asked to find program spending cuts of up to 15 per cent.cruel vicious Nazi monster, Carney is, much nastier than Harper, Trump and Pissy Panties Poilievre combined.
The government news release said AI “has the potential to significantly improve completely destroy government operations and services for Canadians the easier and faster to give Canada to Putin via his Orange Diapered Agent in the White house,” and that Ottawa is “seeking to harness the power of this transformativeracist, bigoted, misogynistic, anti-right, anti-life, anti-water, anti-energy, anti-sercurity inhumane and incredibly stupid stolentechnology while building a vibrant wish you were dead, stolenmade-in-Canada technology sector.”
@emmettmacfarlane.com:
As professors do the extremely difficult work of adapting pedagogy to ensure students continue to actually learn basic skills, universities pull the rug right out from under them. This is an abomination, a dereliction of duty. www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/art…
What’s the point of a university education if you come out of it not being able to write the first draft of a letter without “AI assistance”?
I’m not suggesting students shouldn’t be taught about “AI” and its uses (and its dangers). But instead of permeating (destroying) all aspects of university education, AI should be a feature limited to discrete contexts, much like methods or theory courses that are but one part of a broader program.
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I don’t think it’s appeasement. I think Carney is another Nazi, eager to destroy our charter rights and democracy along with his good pal Herr Harper after Harper failed to while PM. I think Carney is working with the Orange USA Nazi Regime of Cruelty and the IDU to destroy us. Life has taught me that extremely religious people are often extremely self serving and cruel in their self righteous behaviours, like wanting to legalize rape and abuse of kids because so many of them rape and abuse kids (while blaming drag queens)!
The government calls it the “Strong Borders Act.” That’s a lie.
Bill C-2 is shameful appeasement of US pressure, NOT a good faith effort to protect our country. It trades away the rights of people in Canada to soothe the Trump administration. 2/7
What does C-2 do? It gives police & spies a shocking new power to access your account info WITHOUT a warrant.
And C-2 paves the way for foreign dictatorships to get their hands on your data too.
By laying groundwork for the CLOUD Act and problematic cybercrime treaties, it sets us up for massive new data requests from US and other foreign entities too.
Bill C-2 also abandons Canada’s legal obligations to refugees under international law.
It would strip people of their right to claim asylum FOR LIFE, for arbitrary reasons. It slams the door on people fleeing war and disaster. It’s not who we are.
We’re proud to join 300+ organizations today demanding our gov #StopBillC2. This legislation is too broken to be fixed. It was drafted in secret, without a shred of public consultation, and it betrays the government’s promises to protect our rights.
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Join us in demanding the government WITHDRAW Bill C-2 completely NOW! 7/7
Stop Carney’s Surveillance Plan: Stop Bill C–2!
@scotthrm.bsky.social
I signed the petition.
This is dystopian horseshit.
