@emmettmacfarlane.com:
OKAY, at what point do we declare Pierre Poilievre a national security risk? This is bananas. The guy refuses to be briefed because he can’t act willy-nilly with the information? Completely unfit for public office.
Stephen @stephenhunt.ca:
Someone wants to be the leader of a country but doesn’t understand the concept of classified information.
@TheoAnonis:
Evangelical Christianity is a cancer.
Conservatism is a cancer.
Both act to forcefully replace decency and virtue with violence and hatred.
Conservatives – They can’t be bargained with. They can’t be reasoned with. They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
‘British Writer Pens The Best Description Of Trump I’ve Read’ by Dorian de Wind, Military Affairs Correspondent, Sept 5, 2023, The Moderate Voice
There is a piece — written by a very eloquent and witty English writer, Nate White — circulating, purportedly in response to the question “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”
It has recently (re-)appeared in the London Daily. It was also recently posted by the Democratic Coalition on Facebook and, since 2019, it has been posted and reposted in various blogs and publications.
Its origins are murky but appear to go back to that question posed and answered, respectively, on Quora more than four years ago.
Although written four years ago, even before January 6, the Big Lie, the classified documents caper, election interference and before four indictments, the brutally honest and accurate British response today fits the former president better than ever, like the proverbial glove.
Titled “British Writer Pens The Best Description Of Trump I’ve Read,” here it is, unabridged, lovely British parlance and spelling and all. (Only one asterisk had to be inserted by this author.):
This is a fabulous read!
A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of sh*t. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?’ If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
Some of the comments:
Vadimir6669 2024:
His followers worship him like a fat orange god because they too, are nasty and stupid. This is the result of 40 years of the republican war on education and intelligence. But let’s not forget that the democrats didn’t do much to stop it. At this point we just need to replace all of them.
Bob Acker Vadimir6669 2024:
It's the result of trash being trash.Raymond Rodriguez 2024:
As an American, I’ve never heard a better description of donnie. As an American I am absolutely embarrassed that our cousins across the pond know him better than 33% of us. Those of us who are real apologize to our cousins for how he’s acted towards you, All.
In time donnie and just kind will be gone. We’ll get back to being civilized again, sometime. In the meantime, be patient with us, please. The majority of us want him and his kind gone, we are not all Crass A$$es, honest.
I’ve never read your writing before, however I’m going to keep an eye out for you now.
Dorian Raymond Rodriguez 2024:
I've never read your writing before, however I'm going to keep an eye out for you now
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You are probably referring to the author of the original article, Nate White. I have been trying to learn more about him, without success. If you have better luck, please let us know.
Thanks for the comments.toni wintroub: 2024
I am 100% confounded by the reality that so many people cannot see Dump’s maniacal narcissism, his egotism, bragging on things that are lies, his sociopathic beliefs on how he’s the best, wisest, most expert on everything when he’s so obviously a dunce, a blowhard, a bully, a liar, a user, ….a grandiose liar….how do other people not “get it”? Are Americans truly so dumb, so in need of a bully father figure?In my experiences of living, humans are mostly cruel selfish lying raping fucks, eager to take anything from earth and or others that they can get away with taking, including bodies of kids. Many admire and worship Trump and Poilievre because they mirror the worst in them, notably the raping lying, stealing, hate and bullying. Many humans are stupid because they’re too lazy to think for themselves. I believe stupid humans love voting for stupid politicians like Trump and Poilievre because that makes them feel smarter than they are. Our species is revolting and gives nothing back to earth’s life systems, we just rape and kill and poison and destroy. Everything I love, I’ve watched be destroyed by humans.
Dump is one of the most revolting, disgusting, sorry-assed excuses for a human being that I’ve seen in my long lifetime. I admit that his competition give us great examples of disgusting blobs of protoplasm—-Bannon, Stephen Miller, Navarro, Gaetz, Gosar, Boebert, MTG, Jordan, and so many others. At least Kissinger had the grace to die.
Michelle Monette 2024:
What the British may not realize is that the US TV show created years ago for/with him, “The Apprentice” cemented his appeal among the less intelligent that he was this billionaire genius who could do no wrong. So they already have an image of him that you can’t convince them is false.
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@charlieangus104.bsky.social:
This is a no-brainer: a Granny who wants to volunteer at a school lunch program has to get a security clearance.
And yet Pierre Poilievre who lives in a 19-room mansion funded by the taxpayer refuses or can’t get a security clearance.
Something stinks here.
@alexgoatcher.bsky.social:
I work for Parks Canada and I have to have security clearance to talk to tourists and take their money. C’mon maaaan…..
Hoochie Coochie Sarducci @sarducci.bsky.social:
Now he has a license to lie about sensitive issues
Black Cloud Six @blackcloudsix.bsky.social
It’s complete BS, Charlie. People with high security clearances make public comments all the time. One of the responsibilities of having a clearance is to know what is releasable & what isn’t. The same rule applies to the PM, Cabinet etc.
I don’t know what he’s thinking, but it doesn’t make sense.Nothing Pee Pee says or does makes sense. He has none.
@twotime2equals4.bsky.social:
cause he wont clear it, he a ticking red flag.
India connection and wife connection with foreign crooks. I’m sure there’s more.
Gemma @gemslawrence.bsky.social:
Yeah between his India connection, wife connections, and his suspicious ties to Musk, Trump and Russia asset Republicans there is no way he would pass it.
Black Cloud Six @blackcloudsix.bsky.social:
I tend to chalk it up to stupidity rather than something nefarious, given no evidence.
Phillip Rees @phillip-rees.bsky.social:
Isn’t he the guy that was endorsed by the guy that bought the other guy the election?
Cathie MacIntosh @catmac1.bsky.social:
That’s the guy.
Mt Pleasant @jekllnnhide.bsky.social:
since reveal, he’s been called to and refused. If he could get it, he would. If CPC gave one single crap about their party/brand/who they are, they would give him an ultimatum
It stinks badly
If he could have gotten it, he would have by now
He can’t get it. WHY NOT. And why is he still leader??Because Harper needs him because he’s stupid, and will give Canada to USA
FranklyMyDear @frank-lee.bsky.social:
Pierre Poilievre not having security clearance – whether it is because he just wont bother to get it – or if it is because he CAN’T get it – is all just a big plate of red meat for his vote base – the most ignorant, uneducated, dumbass, white grievance filled group of nitwits in Canada.
arcadia2005.bsky.social @arcadia2005.bsky.social:
The poor half, yes. The other half doesn’t give a flying flip as they will always vote conservative regardless, to look out for their bottom line.
FranklyMyDear @frank-lee.bsky.social:
The rich want their huge tax cuts from Poilievre; deceitfully Poilievre plays the role of champion of the working class when for TWENTY (20) YEARS his policies and votes in the House have been attacking and destroying the working class, pushing them downward to enrich his already rich benefactors.
bosca007.bsky.social @bosca007.bsky.social:
Is anyone else really scared for our country? Look at the s*** mess they’ve got down south. It was pathetic before now we can times that by a 1,000.
@kevinvantighem.bsky.social:
When I signed up to shovel sidewalks for neighbours unable to do it for themselves I had to go through a police check first.
Simply made sense to me.
Anyone wanting to run for a seat in a federal election should have to go through a security clearance first. Or be disqualified.
Simply makes sense.
No further security briefings for Poilievre, Move comes as foreign interference report is released by Raisa Patel, Jan 28, 2025, Toronto Star
Fucking security threat lying asshole of supremely dangerous stupidityConservative Leader Pierre Poilievre will no longer receive a briefing from Canada’s top spy agency because the special pathway through which he was approved to receive the information would still bar him from openly sharing the intelligence.
In early December, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) had determined that it could share classified information with the Conservative leader through what’s known as a “threat reduction measure,” or a TRM.
Such a measure can be used in cases where it is deemed appropriate to share classified intelligence with someone who does not possess the necessary security clearances. TRMs are aimed at reducing threats to Canada’s security instead of collecting more intelligence to investigate the matter. Disclosing certain information to individuals who have not undergone the required screenings is one of the ways that can be accomplished, because they can take actions that would minimize the threat.
Unlike other federal party leaders, Poilievre has resisted obtaining his security clearance because he refuses to be “gagged” by the information he receives. He has argued that being bound to secrecy, which is required at that level of clearance, would prevent him from discussing his findings with his caucus — and Canadians.Classified information is classified for important reasons, you stupid dense empty shell.
He has long demanded that he receive the intelligence anyway through the TRM pathway, believing that would allow him to receive critical information that could be publicly shared. But that assumption did not last long.Roaring laughter. Fuck, the Picklehead is stupid.
“In subsequent discussions with the government regarding the offered TRM briefing, officials indicated that should Mr. Poilievre receive the TRM briefing, he would be legally prevented from speaking with anyone other than legal counsel about the briefing and would be able to take action only as expressly authorized by the government, rendering him unable to effectively use any relevant information he received,” Poilievre’s spokesperson, Sebastian Skamski, told the Star in a statement.
“This is clearly unacceptable, and entirely contrary to the government’s supposed objective of enabling the person briefed to reduce risk.”
Poilievre’s office did not respond to further questions about which officials relayed that information to the Conservative leader, nor when he was told.
The update comes as Justice Marie Josée Hogue on Tuesday released her long awaited final report on foreign interference in Canadian affairs, following more than a year of consultations and hearings that featured hours of testimony ranging from affected diaspora communities in Canada to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Among the 51 recommendations Hogue issued in the report, the Quebec judge noted that the leaders of all federal political parties represented in the House of Commons “should be encouraged and given the opportunity to obtain top secret security clearances as soon as possible after they become leaders.”
She wrote earlier in her report that party leaders have “unique powers and responsibilities” to act on foreign meddling threats, such as by removing an MP from certain roles or not promoting them in the first place.Critically important now that we have Nazis running the genocidal and insane Israeli States of America threatening Canada.
Hogue noted, however, that there are “challenges for party leaders who receive intelligence, particularly if they are told that, due to secrecy concerns, there are limits” to how they use the information.
The NDP’s Jagmeet Singh, Bloc Québécois Leader YvesFrançois Blanchet and the Green Party’s Elizabeth May have each undergone the necessary screenings, while the prime minister typically automatically receives intelligence briefings.
Poilievre rejects terms of CSIS foreign interference briefing, Spy agency said in December it would give Conservative leader briefing without him needing security clearance by Darren Major, CBC News, Jan 28, 2025
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is rejecting the terms of a briefing from Canada’s spy agency regarding foreign interference because it won’t enable him to act on the information, his office says.
The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) said in December that it was looking to share “some information to the leader of the Official Opposition through a threat reduction measure.”
But a spokesperson for Poilievre said Tuesday that the Conservative leader wouldn’t be able to act upon the information he received from the CSIS briefing.
“[Poilievre] would be legally prevented from speaking with anyone other than legal counsel about the briefing and would be able to take action only as expressly authorized by the government, rendering him unable to effectively use any relevant information he received,” spokesperson Sebastian Skamski said in a statement to CBC News.
Skamski said not allowing Poilievre to act goes against the point of a threat reduction measure in the first place.
Other party leaders have been calling on Poilievre to obtain a security clearance so he can review classified documents regarding foreign interference. But the Conservative leader has rejected those calls, arguing that he wouldn’t be able to freely speak or criticize the government based on the top-secret information. Poilievre has said his chief of staff, Ian Todd, has received classified briefings.
In October, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told the public inquiry studying foreign interference that he had “the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and/or candidates in the Conservative Party of Canada who are engaged, or at high risk of, or for whom there is clear intelligence around foreign interference.”
Poilievre pushed back and said the prime minister should name the individuals he alluded to during his testimony.
Later in October, Trudeau said he asked intelligence services to find a way to brief Poilievre about foreign interference allegations involving his party — and possibly to share “some names” with the Conservative leader.
Skamski said the CSIS briefing would only touch on foreign interference “directed at” Conservative politicians and wouldn’t address the issues Trudeau raised.
“The government advised that the intended briefing did not implicate the suitability of any current parliamentarian to remain in caucus, nor did the intended briefing touch on any individual nominated as a candidate for the party or seeking to be nominated,” he said.
CBC News has asked the Prime Minister’s Office for comment, but has yet to receive a response.
When reached for a response, CSIS didn’t comment on the terms of the briefing, or Poilievre’s concerns.
“This briefing was designed to enhance security and address risks associated with particular threats, ensuring that the classified information provided is limited to what CSIS has assessed as necessary,” the agency said in an emailed statement.
Commissioner Marie-Josée Hogue, the head of the foreign interference inquiry, released her final report on Tuesday.
The report said while the commission noticed some concerning behaviour, it found no evidence that “traitors” in Parliament are plotting with hostile states against Canada’s interests.
Hogue wrote that although she has seen a few cases where a foreign state has attempted to curry favour with parliamentarians, “the phenomenon remains marginal and largely ineffective.”
Among her list of recommendations to combat foreign interference, Hogue says in her report that “leaders of all political parties represented in the House of Commons should be encouraged and given the opportunity to obtain top-secret security clearances as soon as possible after they become leaders.”
Green Party leader wants Parliament to adopt foreign interference changes before election, Government says it has to study report before committing to any changes by Elizabeth Thompson, CBC News, Jan 29, 2025
Federal political parties should work together to quickly adopt recommendations made by Justice Marie-Josée Hogue’s inquiry into foreign interference before the next election, says Green Party Leader Elizabeth May.
In her report made public Tuesday, Hogue made 51 recommendations — 24 of which she said should be adopted before the next federal election.
However, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s decision to prorogue Parliament while his party holds a leadership race to succeed him means that Parliament is unable to enact any of Hogue’s recommendations that involve changes to legislation such as the Canada Elections Act. It is widely expected that opposition parties will make good on their promise to defeat the minority Liberal government when Parliament resumes sitting on March 24, plunging Canada into a federal election.
Former CSIS directors Ward Elcock and Richard Fadden break down the final report from the foreign interference inquiry that finds no evidence of ‘traitors’ in Parliament, but points to serious threats from misinformation, disinformation and transnational repression.
Speaking to reporters after the report was made public on Tuesday, May outlined a plan for Parliament to adopt at least some of Hogue’s recommendations before that occurs.
“In the interest of Canada, we get together, we put these in place, we ask the prime minister — whoever it will be — to have the speech from the throne identify areas of unanimous consent motions that we could pass,” she said.
She said Parliament could push the changes through in as little as 30 minutes if it takes that route.
Meanwhile, May said political parties should act on the recommendations that touch them, such as ensuring that party members are Canadian citizens or permanent residents.
But it might not be that simple.
Public Safety Minister David McGuinty and Democratic Institutions Minister Ruby Sahota announced more money to fight foreign interference on Tuesday, but Sahota’s office said it is too soon to know whether the government will try to implement some of Hogue’s recommendations before the next election.
“We’re going to need time to review the actual report and recommendations in full before being able to answer any of that,” said Myah Tomasi, director of communications to Sahota.
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said his party will adopt the report’s recommendations regarding political parties but changing the elections law is up to the Liberal government.
“They could have not prorogued Parliament and we would have been able to make things happen in Parliament. They could recall Parliament,” Singh said. “So, it’s really up to them if they want to implement the recommendations of Justice Hogue.”
However, Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet said if the Liberals want to adopt the inquiry’s recommendations more quickly, they should call an election now. Blanchet also didn’t commit to proactively implementing the recommendations regarding political parties, pointing out that parties are private entities.
The Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s office said the report confirms many of the concerns the Conservative Party has raised over the past two years concerning foreign interference. It said the party will “carefully study” Hogue’s recommendations but did not say whether it would work to put her recommendations in place before the next election.
In her report, Hogue found that foreign states have been trying to interfere with Canada’s democratic institutions.
She said there have been a small number of isolated cases to date that may have had some impact on the outcome of a nomination or an election, but she said the impact to date has been minimal.
So there has been interference, just not serious. Any interference is bad, in my view. Especially if by billionaire or foreign agent like Steve Harper’s IDU. “There is no evidence to suggest that our institutions have been seriously affected by such interference or that parliamentarians owe their successful election to foreign entities,” she wrote.
However, Hogue said a threat exists to future Canadian elections.
“I have learned that the foreign interference threat is real,” Hogue wrote.
“There are a number of foreign states who are actively working to secretly, and often illegally, meddle in our democratic institutions. They use a wide range of strategies and tactics, some of which are incredibly sophisticated.”
Hogue said disinformation campaigns on social media platforms now constitute an important source of foreign interference.What about direct disinformation that like spewed constantly by Pierre Poilievre, Steve Harper, Danielle Smith, Doug Ford, Scott Moe, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, et al, on and off social media lying intentionally – especially feeding hate and rage against anything Trudeau and now Carney – to con voters with the intent to destroy Canada and hand the dregs over to the Israeli-controlled Nazi States of America? And worse, trying to propagandize stupid Canadians that becoming the armpit state of Nazi America will be good for us. We’ll lose our health care, our charter, our oil and gas and water (if you think the Nazis will share with us what they steal, think again), our culture and history, and Canadian women and girls will lose rights to our own bodies. And much worse, our kids in schools will be shot dead regularly with assault rifles. FUCK THAT. FUCK TRUMP. FUCK MUSK. FUCK JD VANCE. FUCK DILDO DANIELLE SMITH. FUCK STUPID POILIEVRE. FUCK HARPER. FUCK THE REPUGLICANS. FUCK THE USELESS COWARDLY DEMOCRATS. FUCK FASCISM.
“This emerging trend is quite concerning because disinformation is especially challenging to combat, and efforts to regulate social media platforms to curb it have been unsuccessful so far,” Hogue wrote. “Canada needs to reflect on this threat and find ways of dealing with it.”
To thwart attempts by other countries to meddle in the next vote, Hogue recommended Canada act “promptly.”
Among her recommendations:
- Allowing only Canadian citizens and permanent residents to vote in party nomination and leadership contests and requiring parties to have members declare their status.
Up until the deadline a few days ago, Cons – including Fucker Trucker leaders – were bragging on social media about joining the federal liberal party to vote in the leadership race, and boasted about rounding up others from everywhere to vote for the weakest candidate who has no chance against Poilievre, even though the rules state one can only join if not a member of any other party. Who’s checking? Looks like no one. And how many hundreds of thousands of votes can the Nazi tech bros lay claim to via their bots et al, in other words, control the leadership using non humans? We already know Poilievre’s leadership was won via foreign hanky panky. There’s nothing stopping that same foreign hanky panky killing Carney’s obvious win. Foreign agents want Poilievre to become PM for obvious reasons, he’ll happily finish Harper’s job of destroying Canada’s public health care and education, and hand us over to Adolf Orange led Israeli States of America. - Updating elections law to prohibit trying to influence the way someone votes at all times — not just during election periods and including nomination and leadership contests.
- Prohibiting foreign entities from contributing to a third party to carry out activities regulated under the law and prohibiting third parties from using property or services provided by a foreign entity for those activities.
- Requiring clear marking for all paid and unpaid communications during an election, nomination or leadership contest that have been generated or manipulated by artificial intelligence.I’ve observed photos of Poilievre altered by AI trying to make him look less cruel, and more masculine, attractive and healthy than he is. Creepy as fuck, because he looks in reality like a filled diaper crossed with a drug dealer.
- Amending elections law to “prohibit false information being spread to undermine the legitimacy of an election or its results.”How about removing legal immunity for the endless abusive lying crap spewed constantly by politicians in Parliament and out in public, especially those in Canada’s fascist parties, like the Poilievre Harper and Alberta cons, and the inhumane people’s party?
- Expanding sections of the elections law that prohibit lying or committing fraud in an election to nomination and leadership contests.If there are sections that already prohibit lying/fraud, why hasn’t Poilievre been punished for his lying and spewing constant disinformation to farm rage, hatred and violence against those he opposes and or is jealous of, eg Trudeau?
Security and intelligence expert Wesley Wark, a senior fellow with the Centre for International Governance Innovation, said Hogue’s report includes important recommendations on improving intelligence, adopting a foreign interference strategy, better protecting Parliament and making parliamentarians more knowledgeable about threats.
However, Wark said recommendations to change legislation can take time to implement.
“These recommendations are for the future. A future government of whatever stripe is going to inherit them and is going to have to act on the ones that they think are implementable and important,” Wark said.